found these out by reverse engineering the damage formulas EDIT: Spoiler: finally decided to mathematically prove it after 2 years K can be found in the next section below For non-NLs: or For NLs: where, S secondary is secondary stat and S main is main stat M is mastery (which is 0.9 for archers, 0.8 for DrK, 0.75 for axe heroes and 0.6 for the rest) attack is your total weapon attack including potions your end result = 1 wa worth of range (slightly different for NLs. TT uses a special formula that ignores secondary stats so even if you see a range increase from dex/str, it has no effect on actual damage done by TT) ============================================================ Secondary stat to primary stat ratio (does not apply to NL because secondary stat is entirely worthless for TT damage) where K = One Handed Sword: 4.0 One Handed Axe/BW/Wand/Staff (Swinging): 4.4 One Handed Axe/BW/Wand/Staff (Stabbing): 3.2 -----for brandish on average: 3.8 -----for blast on average: 3.92 Two Handed Sword: 4.6 Two Handed Axe/BW (Swinging): 4.8 Two Handed Axe/BW (Stabbing): 3.4 -----for brandish on average: 4.1 -----for blast on average: 4.24 Spear (Swinging): 3.0 Spear (Stabbing): 5.0 Polearm (Swinging): 5.0 Polearm (Stabbing).0 Dagger (Non-Thieves): 4.0 Dagger/Throwing Stars (Thieves): 3.6 Bow: 3.4 Crossbow: 3.6 Knuckle: 4.8 Gun: 3.6 from https://ayumilovemaple.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/maplestory-formula-compilation/ Since they are constants, I can calculate for everybody: so if I was a bucc, the ratio is 3.696 dex : 1 str so this means, approximately 3.7 dex gives the same amount of average range as 1 str. Why is this useful now? With the release of the auf haven circlet, and increased % chance of the miracle scroll from 5% to 10%, having a 80+/80+ stat helm is possible. This means most classes would easily exceed their secondary stat requirement to equip their gears. Knowing this ratio would help make a better decision when comparing a gear with a mixed amount of secondary/primary stat vs only primary stat. Why should I ignore this? Because you are a nightlord, like 90% of the server (don't quote me on this). If you are the remaining 10% who main other jobs, you probably wouldn't have an excessive amount of secondary stats.