how are warriors nowadays?

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    Hii all royalers im thinking about to play again the server and this job always likes me, because they dont need a lot of hp wash (the hell of the server xD).

    And im curious for how are they nowadays in terms of bossing etc?

    in my days hero was a very solid decision but looks like now its one of the worst job for the info im looking in forums.

    Im looking info for the 3 jobs Drk,Paladin and Hero

    Thanks all :D
     
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    I think some of the forum discussions often focus on their weakness, which often leave them in a bad light.

    Hero and DK are still the strongest classes in grinding mobs and fighting multi-part bosses. They are weaker than most other classes in single target bossing.

    Paladins have a unique skill on mapleroyals called 'total crash'. The skill largely negates weapon cancel casted by many bosses, and therefore highly sought after in those boss runs. They also have above average single target DPS and decent multi target DPS.
     
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    Bossing wise, paladin is definitely the best choice to go, high demand in Horntail, decent? in auf.

    Drk is great, until auf, the current end game boss for royals, where you can’t really zerk & survive efficiently there, where alot of your DPS is lost.

    Heros got powercrept so badly. Its at a point of no return. Avoid this class, period.

    There are more casual bossing contents that heros/drk excel in such as CWK, but really, you wanna be able to do well in the main ones right?
     
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    If you go pally and have no si, guardian pally (1hand/shield) with max magnet is nice to have for auf too. :classy:
     
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    so... the most rentable way for enjoy all boss its paladin.

    yes i am thinking for make a main @Jooon .

    i was reading in forums ppl wanna get a heroes buff, why that in my times hero was one of the best dps
     
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    It's just that a lot of classes got buffed (Drk, Shad, Bucc, Paladin, MM) but Hero didn't really get much of a buff.
    So while in the past it was around the 4th highest DPS after NL, Sair and BM now it falls behind all the buffed classes and is at the bottom of the attackers.
     
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    Assuming he means 2014, Hero was best dps when HT was gone for like 2-3 years.

    NLs couldnt get TT30
    MW20 was also locked (High LUK scales better on theives than warrior->STR)
    Zerk30 was locked in HT
    Snipe 30 locked in HT and MM were shit without xbowmastery and snipe cd reduce buff

    Only bosses were really Zak, Krex, area bosses, Toad

    Hero had all its skills without HT and this was also pre-buff Bucc, Shad, MM, Paladin.
     
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    ya, thats right i dont remmember that info but u are right.
    about the TT,MW,Zerk

    And the staff dont think about that? about buff the class who dont get his 100% potential and get hero so forgetted i say hero because drk, if the boss hit so hard and u cant zerk drk cant do nothing
     
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    The issue is theres not many end game content where you actually need AoE. And shads at this point are so strong they overshadow heroes in damage and utility (smokescreen is great).

    Heroes don’t need a dps buff as much as a utility buff.

    LHC and Shao gave warriors more power but a late game raid boss (Auf/HT/etc.) that requires a little more AoE would help Heroes/Drks get more parties. ATM they only really are needed in CWKPQ
     
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    thanks a lot for ur help!!
     
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    Depende mucho de tu estilo de juego y como vallas a subir los early lvls, la mayoria te dara consejos en base a su vision personal del juego, todos los que han comentado tu thread(incluyendome) ya no consideran el lvl 1 al 135 como parte del juego, si no mas como un preambulo. Al mismo tiempo que ya tienen unos fundings y set de gears mas la posibilidad de adquirir armas perfectas con facilidad. Si quieres evitar el wash, la pregunta seria: Lo haces por falta de fundings(o no querer gastar tu dinero) o por que aun teniendo las posibilidades, no quieres usar la mecanica?
    El problema de los warr es que la power creep del juego ha crecido increiblemente y hoy en dia cualquiera tiene un set de 50wa y un arma perfecta, la fortaleza de los warr en general esta en que son buenos con una equipacion baja, lo que los hace el mejor main para alguien que esta empezando en el juego y que no quiere vender leech como loco(o que no tiene tiempo para hacerlo) pero sinceramente, si tienes funds para empezar...los warriors en general no son una buena opcion. De cualquier manera, el mejor de los warrs sin duda es el paladin, no es demasiado bueno en terminos generales, pero en la escala de los warr, si, es el mejor. El drk y el hero son casi lo mismo, aunque es cierto que el drk es mejor opcion si juegas atento a la pantalla todo el tiempo, no por mucho, pero lo es.(hay una concepcion generalizada de que el drk es muuuucho mejor que el hero, pero haha, cumplen el mismo rol y el drk es solo un 5-6% mas fuerte en lineas generales XD)

    Ahora, hay un job que , aunque si se le recomienda hacer wash, tambien es melee, tiene un Hp alto y... que rayos, es un puto guerrero aunque nexon haya decidido ponerlo en otra categoria de job, BUCCANER. Tiene todas las caracteristicas de un warr, pero a diferencia del pally, a este si vale la pena darle toda la dedicacion del mundo, por que la paga con creces.
     
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    wow increíble gracias amigo!! pues si q me llama mucho la atención Bucc la verdad, pero es el tema wash lo que me echa atrás si no existiera el wash creo q mi elección de job sería Bucc o Shad siendo sincero incluso NL pero me decantaría antes por uno de los 2 anteriores la verdad.

    Por lo que al equipamiento se refiere.
    Supongo que si podría hacer wash no lo recuerdo exactamente pero tendre como +100int en gear y la opción de vender leech en petris con mi i/l.

    pero es eso encuentro muy complicado el tema de como realizar el wash.

    se lo básico train con el equip de int hasta el lvl que quieras tener tu meta.

    pero a partir de ahí ns si tengo q guardar puntos,etc.
    Porque alguna vez he intendao quitar un ap de mp con el ap reset para darselo a hp y me sale en gris como que no puedo quitarle
     
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    Bueno, para resumirlo, todos sabemos que el 30k es un numero simbolico, no es necesario auqnue tampoc es inutil tener 30k, por cierto aun los warriors requieren un wash minimo para llegar a este numero, ya que tmapoco llegan por si solos al natural, el bucc, tiene un hp natural mas bajo que todos los warr, pero mas alto que todos los demas jobs, es como un punto medio(me parece que sin nada de wash llega a tener 14k hp al lvl 170 o algo por el estilo) asi que , si solo usas tus gears de int, te ayudara, con 100 int en ropa+ algo de int base podrias tener mas que suficinete para hacer HT e incluso auf, sin problemas. Hay algunas guias en video en YT de como hacer wash, te podrian dar un alcance mejor de que hiciste mal previamente. Pero solo con la ropa y hacer el quest de hp diario podrias llegar a tener un HP mas que decente la verdad..... , si no , como mencione, el pally tambien es buena opcion.
     
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    muchas gracias por tu ayuda amigo!! disculpa q siga molestándote pero sabes si existe guá de la quest diaria? sobre como hacerla, a que level se puede empezar ha hacer...
     
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    Paladin seems kinda weak' today I did solo shao on it and used apple+si and only beat it with like 30 sec left, while on my bucc I could solo it with stopper and still have like 2 minutes left
    Both chars had around the same level and gear but the bucc had a better weapon (Paladin had 133 atk claymore and the bucc had 118 atk king cent) but the difference shouldn't be that big.
    Not to mention the Paladin without SI which is even weaker
     
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    so... definitely we can say warriors are the worst attacker class?
     
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    In terms of damage (especially multi target) warriors are stronger than archers. They also got a lot more hp and are very easy to wash.
    Archers have SE though so it's debatable who is better
     

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